Motorola E815 / E816 Hollywood

so, its worthless to buy this phone from verizon if they are going to cripple the bluetooth. Might as well buy the a840.

UofDVZW said:
The phone is OBEX approved.. not required... we will see this phone on other carriers... the profiles are still carrier dependant don't be disappointed if the e815 doesn't have OBEX for verizon wireless

You are saying that Bluetooth SIG will approve the firmware, allow a retailer to remove key profiles, and still authorize the use of the Bluetooth Trademark and logo on the stripped down unit?

Verizon can't do that, unless Bluetooth re-qualifies the unit again with fewer profiles. That's never been done before and it is against their current interoperability policy.

This is no different than what they did with the V710, I cannot understand how they can advertise this as a bluetooth phone and only allow 1 or two uses for it.

The V710 was also boasted with bluetooth and the phone was crippled.

Not only that, but when you take your phone in they upgrade your software without your consent which in turn disables your trans-flash card reader.

I am highly pi***d that I am now stuck in a 2 year contract with Verizon and stuck with a phone that was a "one and only" for Verizon that is not completely useless.

I complained about my memory card reader problem and they said "we no longer support the Card Reader", yet they continue to offer phones with this feature.

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for real ! Thats false advertising

I am new to Bluetooth and seriously considering the E815. I'm thinking of buying bluetooth enabled car, perhaps the Acura TL, is this disabling going to effect how that works? Or using a Bluetooth earpiece? Is the disabling primarily effecting how you can transfer files to the phone?

Thanks,

Dan

if you read through the forums you'll read about the V710 and how it was never approved for obex so verizon never did anything wrong.. and to another post in here the SIG approved the device(E815) for OBEX not the firmware.. it is up to the carriers discretion to decide what features to allow in a phone..thats why each carrier has its own firmware... and if you read around there is a nokia the 6255i that is full bluetooth.. how ever the phone is still being considered by verizon wireless and will again probably not have the obex profile when released on VZW

Also the only real issues is that some car manufactors are only allowing phone book transfers dones by the OBEX profile... however if you own a BMW or buy a new BMW you are able to tra...
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UofDVZW said:.. it is up to the carriers discretion to decide what features to allow in a phone..thats why each carrier has its own firmware...

True. But it is solely up to Bluetooth SIG to decide what is - and what is not Bluetooth Qualified.

If Verizon wants to monkey around with the profiles, after the unit is Qualified, they better be ready to call the modified phone something other than Bluetooth.

jbozmi said:
This is no different than what they did with the V710, ...

I really hope someone sues the hell out of them.

Well, really it is different. OBEX file transfer was never built into any V710 phone sold by Motorola anywhere, Canada, South Korea, Mexico, nowhere.

Why? Because Bluetooth SIG never Qualified the V710 phone to do that; to have file transfer on demand to another enabled device.

Now, the E815 is different. It has been built and Qualified with the OBEX profile, so that configuration will be sold somewhere. Carriers can't decide on their own what is Bluetooth. Only Bluetooth SIG can permit the use of that Trademark.

So any phone E815 that is sold without OBEX would be "crippl...
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i've had this phone for over a month. i got it off ebay. i originally thought it was a 710 in 815 housing, but it is the real deal. i got it for the phonebook capacity. i don't use many of the features. it is a good phone. if any of you want me to test any features and report back i will be glad to do it. i will need some directions to do some stuff. it is a lot like the 710. both displays are better. the camera seems to be a little better, but i question the usefulness of any digital camera ever since my wife got her digital rebel. when you change wallpaper the outer display changes to the same wallpaper. there are 3 factory loaded skins (moto, scarlet, techno). i couldn't get the icons to center on any skin other than techno. although the ...
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If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for the phone on ebay? I seem to remember seeing one on ebay, but it was a V710 with the E-815 housing. It kind of concerns me that the display goes out on your phone periodically, hopefully you can get the phone re-flash with the new/released VZW version firmware, and it will fix the problem. Do you have EVDO in your area, if not, it may be one of the reason your phone goes out of service.

paid $500. when i called to activate, it did show up to verizon as an e815. the csr had to activate it as motorola other? i do not have evdo in my area. that is a good point. i was in an evdo area this week and i did not notice any problems. beside the antenna strength icon it shows 1x in my area, but EV when in evdo area. do you think a flash will fix the display? i'm sort of wary because i've heard some firmware upgrades disable more features. i love my trans-flash!

I think typically when someone sells a non-released phone on ebay, they are more than likely a tester, but this is how they find problems with phones (I hope) and report their findings to the manufacturer, Moto will then make software adjustment as needed before final release. I know where you are coming from because chances of VZW disable some features are very good. I could be wrong, but I just think this phone may have one of the earlier beta firmware. I don't know how you can go about getting a more updated version of firmware without all the disabled features. Maybe someone else in this forum can help. If it's not firmware problems, then I hate to think the original owner may not have taking care of the phone, may have drop it a few tim...
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