HTC Mogul / XV6800 / PPC6800 / P4000
Average Ratings
Great features but atrocious bluetooth
Love the features on this phone: Nice bright touchscreen, great EVDO speed, Wi-Fi, nice size and weight. But here is the deal killer. The bluetooth stack is absolutely horrible. How such a great phone can have such a horrible defect boggles the mind. The receiving party on your calls randomly hears a signal that is broken up when using BT. This is independent of the brand of BT headset. Check the forums for more information.
6800... Are you sure?
What can I say that everything you have ever read about this device that won't help anymore? The screen is clearer, the productivity is more.. The memory is more than double of the 6700, the ease of use is more and program/device features are way more. You have to get use to the different layout of the buttons if you've had the 6700 because everything is pretty much backward but you get hang of it after about a day. I love the phone and hands down, up or anyway you can do it recommend it. The ONLY thing that doesn't get the FIVE on is the feel of the slide while it is open. It jiggles a little. It isn't as solid and secure as the 6700 like when it clicked while fully open on the slide. The 6800 clicks but it has a slight jiggle. Other than that.. It's the perfect phone and I'm happy Sprint beat Verizon to it...
Alltel's version better than most
Well I have had this phone for 12 days and yes I am returning it, but not for anything real bad so to speak but here are my list of pro's and con's,
pro's
-Comes loaded with Windows Mobile Version 6 yes I said 6, Alltel's version and its sweet.
-Handles applications with ease as long as you shut the programs down manually, kinda annoying.
-Mobile office works perfect
-Surfs the net like a laptop
-More like a laptop than a phone
-E-mail is great no issues with any account I have
-Battery life is not to bad but remember to manually close your programs.
-Wifi and all the other ways you can connect works perfectly,, and yes bluetooth as well
-Screen is awesome
-Texting is awesome
-Touchscreen is awesome
-Reception is great but all of alltel's phones I have had have been great.
Cons
-Speaker phone is terrible with a phone this size you would think the speaker would be awesome? Why not stereo speakers, its not like this is a small phone plenty of room.
-Same goes for volume in ear, what the heck??Its so bad. Maybe I'm going deaf.
-The price of the applications to purchase is insane and really nothing great.
-No navigation!!?? What the heck??
What it really comes down to is this phone does all the computer stuff great but the phone stuff is not so great, sorry I really need the phone stuff.
Shortcomings
I waited for a very long time for this PPC to be released. I expected the phone/PPC to have all of the functionality of my previous phone. I am highly dissapointed
As most people have already named the pros of the phone, I will talk about the dissappointments of the phone.
Cons:
1) Battery life-The phone comes with a 1500 MaH battery. What a joke. The battery becomes easily depleted within a few phone calls or using the browser. The battery also becomes quite warm.
2) The phone has locked up and programs have stopped working-The phone has locked up out of the blue. The voice recognition also stopped working, requiring a reboot.
3) Battery Upgrade-As this is a multiple function device, I choose to upgrade from the 1500MaH battery to the 2100Mah battery.
Granted, the battery lasts longer, but not that much longer and now the phone is not sleek anymore, it has a HUGE bulge in the back making the phone difficult to put into a case. Why couldn't they have designed a battery that was thicker, but flatter, instead of a huge bulge in the back of the phone. Poor design!
4) Voice Recognition-This is my biggest complaint about the phone. Everything has to be setup with Tags. It does not have any simple voice recognition in ROM to do simple commands such as Digit Dial or Redial etc. So if you do not have a phone number setup in your contacts and a voicetag assigned to it. Forget it for handsfree.
5) Voice Recognition #2-Because of this lack of voice recognition, it requires you to purchase a seperate application on top of the expensive phone. The application that is mostly spoke about is Microsoft Voice Commander 1.6. This program does not work through mono bluetooth as yet. There are also many bugs with call confirmation.
6) Lock is not complete lock. When you click to lock the screen, the buttons are still active, therefore if you accidently hit one of them you will have to unlock the phone to cancel the command that was just executed.
Not what its hyped up to be.
I am going to return or sell my 6800. It is slow as molasses!! In all honesty the 6700 ran smother and was quicker than the 6800. The 6700 didn't slow down until you bogged it down with apps or tried to run too many apps at once. The 6800 is slow out of the box!!! This is no lie. I got an iPhone and couldn't be happier. I know the iPhone doesn't have all the features the 6800 has but what it does it does very well. It doesn't matter if the 6800 is going to have a revision A upgrade or WM6. If the phone is slow it doesn't matter. It's like having cable Internet hooked up to a CPU with a celeron processor running at 800MHz with 512mb of ram. Its slow.
Pros
Qwerty
ability to add 3rd party apps
Cons
Slow out of the box
feels very cheap
low "user" memory
small screen cant see in direct sun
BLUETOOTH IS HORRIBLE ON THIS PHONE
Windows mobile gets boring
expensive for what you get.
NO MMS out of the box.
Watch the review of this product on CNET.com People didn't understand why Bonnie Cha gave this product such a harsh review. After you use it, you will understand as well.
PPC6800
CONs-
Touch screen is "touchy" at best. it responds to my fat chunky fingers but the stylus doesnt do what its supposed to do.
REsets: I have had to reset this PDA like 3 in less than a week due to glitches
Signal: its not great, but Im sure its because of the crappy regional carrier im under. I never have more than 2 or 3 bars.calls are clear so it doesnt really matter.
Windows Mobile 6: its a cool OS but you have to exit out of every screen by pressing ok, which is located in 2 separate spots.. i guess im gonna have to get used to it.
Email: it doesnt work like its supposed to. it keeps sending info about the password being sent to me. then i just have to cancel but it doesnt help. i rarely get to use it to its full capacity. and my job requires me to be able to send and recieve email on a regular basis. I have lost a client due to this problem.
Idle: when its in idle mode and the screen is black (by pressing the power button once it enters this mode to save battery life)its hard to remember how to get it out of that mode. so i will smack it around for a little bit to find the way to get it active again
Beam: doesnt work at all.
Video Camera: Sucks dingaling. i cant xtube none of this crap. not clear enough. and i cant send mms only emails.
PROs-
Loud Ringer!! i thought that it was quite but i didn't have it set right.. you must turn all the volumes up to hear its full sound... I work at a kiosk and i can hear my phone/mp3/anything sound related, over all of the noise.
Stylus is collapsible, and it came with a back up.
Woman dig it, especially when i get to use the camera, which brings me to.
Camera takes crazy pix. backshots are rediculous.
Fully customizable... i chopped my own songs and instrumentals to make my own ringtones. used pix off of myspace to set to my user name profiles.
Dedicated Keys for msgs and internet.
Wifi is the truth. its not the fastest out there but it did waaaaay better than i thought it would.
great
I consider myself a power user. I use this phone to do the following:
1) Sync to my corporate Exchange 2007 server
a. Email send/receive
b. Calendar appointments
c. To-do task list
d. Sync my 450+ contact list from Outlook 2007
2) 2000+ minutes of talk time per month
3) Pocket IE to read news, auto-update scores during football season, etc
4) IM using Pocket Messenger
5) Access real estate lockbox inventory, and review information about my properties which have shown (the IR port functions as my lockbox key)
6) Connect to laptop for Phone-as-Modem (rarely)
7) Over-the-air sync using EV-DO(I update things on Outlook and it shows up on my phone in a few minutes)
PROS
- WM6 Professional Edition
- Touch screen
- Excellent battery life
- Use as modem on my laptop
- better than iPhone
CONS
- Laggy (on occassion if Live Search is running in the background)
- Verizon hasn't released ROM update to access built-in GPS functionality yet
Overall this is a great phone, which I have been using since the day it was first released by Verizon. I came from the XV6700 (after almost 2 years of use), and the extra battery life is a welcome plus. Honestly, I cannot figure out what people are doing, when they complain about their XV6800's poor battery life. I use my phone as my primary business phone, and typically use more than 2000 minutes per month. I unplug my XV6800 every morning around 7:30am, and I don't plug it back in until about 9pm. There have only been 2 occassions where my battery has died before it went back to the charger (I do not have a car charger). Here's a good example: On 2/20/08, I made or received 42 phone calls throughout the day, and my battery warning lit up around 7:30pm (12 hours after unplug). That's 42 phone calls, and I also received 37 e-mails through my exchange server, and sent another 13 e-mails out through exchange. Add to that 24 text messages, and I still got 12 hours of use throughout that day.
best phone ever, 1 problem
best phone ever. i have used just about every platform of phones, from my first nokia 5165i ( no text messaging) to 3360, 3650, razr, moto q, blackberry 8830, voyager, and now this 6800. this phone is the best. give ya some pros and cons
Pros:
customization. (2 (two) clicks to make programs stop
view and save youtube videos to the phone
programs
memory
flawless phone. had for about a month and reset maybe 2 or 3 times
Cons:
honestly, just battery life. im a heavy heavy user and my battery is dead by 1pm
to all who complain about the phone or the processes of doing things, maybe this phone isn't for you. customize the phone to make it work better for you, my voice command button brings up my running programs, then i click stop all, only 2 steps. hope this helps
Returning Verizon XV6800;back to Treo 650
PROS:
*Speedy on Internet
*Almost small form factor
CONS:
*Really takes both hands to operate; complicated by most bottons being almost flat with the stationary surface.
*Battery power really poor; probably because of Windows Mobile OS and almost constant communication with VZW's Wireless Sync. But I don't surf the Internet, play music or games. Pure business involving email, contacts, calendar. Ancient Treo would last two to three days per overnight charge.
Guess I'll just wait for Centro at Verizon.
There are just too many buttons to press for simple business chores on a Windows Mobile phone.
Better than 6700, still not great...Waiting for 800W
Overall this is a much better phone than the 6700, however it still has issues.
PROS:
WM6
Bluetooth that works
Small for what it does
Large screen
voice dialing
CONS:
Crashes a LOT ... True of any WM smartphone, but I thought with this new phone, WM6 maybe a little less - I was wrong.
Slider...can't wait for 800w to go back to bar
SLOOOOOOOWWWW
By comparison of the phones I've had (treo 650, treo 700w, treo 700wx, treo 700p, Q, BB...Hmm, I think that's it). I over all prefer the 700WX, but this will do until the 800W comes out.
If you're getting a smartphone ultimately just know it's not going to be rock solid stable regardless of which phone it is or which OS it's on. Pro Palm OS users claim WM crashes more than Palm OS but in reality what I found is simply that palm os is just more intuitive about crashes than WM is, that is it automatically resets itself when it has a problem where as with WM phones you usually have to hit the reset manually when it screws up, but the Palm OS versions in my opinion didn't crash any less than the WM versions.
If you want a slider, full big screen and you can use both hands with your phone when you need to text email, etc than this is the phone for you.
If you need to be able to text, email one handed, this is not the phone for you.
