how much would it cost them to build out into 2 hole states?

That is a very good question. I am just happy at this announcement because I live in NC, and it's practically the only place that does not have T-Mobile. I'm not really a big fan of SunCom and At&t (which is who I have) does not offer voice or data plans anywhere near the bargain that t-mobile offers. All I can say is its about time, and it will be much welocomed in NC, as we will have a new choice in wireless.

SC as well. They only have about 30 square miles of SC. Consist of the area due north of savananah GA. Which is Beaufort SC. And doesn't even extend to charleston.

I am not denying that buying this company, SunCom, would be great for T-mobile, but SunCom hasn’t been doing that well and has extensive debt load. Their financial and operational outcomes, as of late, have been good but a while it hasn’t been at all. The assets of the company is what T-mobile was looking at and with the valuations makes it more attractive especially gaining spectrum, but I think they should have looked at a roaming agreement. They possibly could have done a roaming deal, which is usually cheaper than the buyout. I would have pursued that roaming deal possibility and then if the economics doesn’t work, let’s say over a few years, and then buy them out especially since roaming deals are a lot cheaper than...
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they have a roaming deal with them already. I guess it wasn't good enough or they wanted to add more subscribers which they will. More people will sign with Tmobile in those two states then with suncom.

Well, what I would have done was to wait to see how Suncom will perform operationally and financially. Now, if the deal goes through, they have to incur those deficits as well as expanding the network to 3G, which costs money. To gain access to a potential 20 million is very key but I think those synergies of $1b is actually too much. Of course, they won’t have to spend any money in roaming, but they would have to expand its HSPA network there. I would have just done things differently. I am trying to read the past performances of Suncom to tell you some of the aspects but their own capital expenditures aren’t that large. Earlier they paid $113m for 20 licenses the cover over 7.4 million people, but some are in NC, SC, and VA. It l...
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I really don't think Tmobile's parant company cared aobut anything but getting that area. They have been trying to get spectrum in those states for a long time now. And I think they were jsut like whatever. They have the money as we all know. So I think in the long run they thought it was the best for them.

For just the spectrum and infrastructure; 100% agree with the purchase, but they basically need to get rid of Suncom’s operational and financial situation. I actually didn’t think, given T-mobile’s class, would purchase Suncom because of their lacking in it. Moreover, T-mobile is actually growing, while Suncom isn’t.

true but I bet they disband suncom and quickly. All they want it the spectrum and as they did with powertel got rid of ever aspect of the company. Suncom is losign money everywere and tmobile will put there company infastructer and ideals in place. Bad for suncom employees well uper managment and mid management because they will likely be out!

Exactly. I think that has to be their plan because there is no need to keep Suncom’s horrible operational and financial situation. That is one of the reasons why I think they could have done better on their own especially if they might not even spend $1.4B (the inclusive of synergies which I think are overstated) at least T-mobile would have done things better. Now they have to spend a lot of money on upgrading Suncom’s network.

Full year 2006; they spent $68m on capex
Full year 2005; they spent $138m on capex

This is actually a good article too; SUNCOM TO INVEST MORE THAN $100 MILLION IN NETWORK ENHANCEMENTS IN THE CAROLINAS” The expansion includes the addition of 42 new cell sites and is part of SunCom's $100 million overall network enhancement project in the Carolinas.

Another good article; “TRITON PCS ANNOUNCES AGREEMENT TO ACQUIRE URBAN COMM – NORTH CAROLINA” “Triton PCS will acquire the outstanding stock of Urban, whose assets include FCC wireless licenses in 20 Basic Trading Areas (“BTAs”) for $113.0 million in cash.”

“CINGULAR AND TRITON PCS COMPLETE TRANSACTION TO EXCHANGE PROPERTIES IN NORTH CA...
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Also about Cingular's expansion: Cingular to invest $115M in N.C. network. "The company will add more than 230 cell sites"

cingular has no choice. att wireless relayed on suncom. They were as we say one. Suncom was a part of the att wireless network. But when cingular bought them they went on their own through a deal worked out with them.

I understand. I just wanted to show how much it cost them to building the network in a per tower basis. So it wouldn’t be very expensive to get into that market especially if they have spectrum.

oh ok. I see that now. But it cost more then that to build one form the ground up. All that money was used for was to enhance what was already there. If you want a good cost see if you can find how much verizon paid to build in NC as they started from scratch just last year!

I don’t remember if it was actually to enhance it or where they actually just starting there so you do have a point, but it won’t be that much especially given Cingular’s per tower build of about $750k, which is average per tower. More importantly, the costs to get spectrum in that area isn’t also that expensive given with the purchases of Suncom, and others. It might cost on average of $1.5-$3/MHz pop also depending on circumstances. Obviously if they build the towers they could always re-sell them and then pay rent on them, as many companies today are doing and the point that you mentioned Suncom sold their towers and are renting them. so given the fact that all of those circumstances I think it is feasible to do it. Al...
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good info. Verizon had to fix its mess in NC and they are getting good there. But it does sound high.

No problem. You know me and how I like to discuss matters. I love to provide excess data and information so at least many people can actually give a rational thought instead of saying something very bogus. Like when you showed me data and information it is very helpful. I think these forums need to have more people like that in order to at least have civil dialogues. With facts you can’t dispute it and that is why you and others (myself included) use it to their advantage.

Yea, Verizon likes to cut checks without really thinking of what they are doing while companies like T-mobile and others need to think closely and careful of how they are spending dollars. Verizon’s MHz per pop is very high while T-mobile’s is very low. ...
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yeah I love discussing things and with you its always civil and not just BS. I get bored over here so it helps past the time.

PS. Have you ever want to alltel's mancave website. While I am not saying its all facts it is quite amusing. I just watched sprint make fun of verizons commercials.

I haven’t went to their website, but have seen their advertising on YouTube and other marketing avenues/channels. Those commercials are funny. Provide me the URL please. If you can’t do it on here for any reason you can always PM me.

http://www.officialmancave.com/ »

It requires you to do some work. Interactive. But good if your bored!

Thanks. So far it looks cool. I am not bored often so I might not be looking at it a lot.

its good for a laugh too!

Indeed!

BTW, SunCom never did aquire Urban Comm, that deal fell through

Ok. I was just pointing out the costs to get there. Also provided information with Cingular and Verizon’s entry.

Yep I know, I was just providing further info :-)

Always good!
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