Samsung SGH-i500 / SGH-i505
what is up with this design
what the hell is up with the shape of the phone. newer technology phones need to be smaller than that.
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And is there an outside display? How do you view Caller ID? No speakerphone? Unless I'm missing something, these are two awful ommissions. I can live without a speakerphone, but I need to see Caller ID.
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This phone have speaker at back beside camera lens. Because this device have swiveling display, you just turn the sceen on front and have largest Caller ID screen ever. 😁 And provider will be exclusively and only T-Mobile US.
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That's a terrible design - who in the world would keep the unit swiveled with the main screen facing out just to see Caller ID? May as well stick a sign on it saying break me. Someone had their you know what up their you know what when they designed this one. But then again, it's T-Mobile.
And I question whether or not it has a speakerphone. Nowhere does it state this.
And I question whether or not it has a speakerphone. Nowhere does it state this.
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Every Samsung PDA phone to date has had a speakerphone, there's no reason to think that this will be any different
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You sure about that? The i500 has a speakerphone? Let's just assume it doesn't come with a speaker phone until someone can prove that it does.
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That's a terrible design - who in the world would keep the unit swiveled with the main screen facing out just to see Caller ID? ...
That's not the reason the display swivels. It swivels so you turn it into a "tablet" form factor and use it like a regular PDA.
Ever used an i500? If you're using an app that requires lots of stylus use, it's kind of awkward to tap or draw on the top half of a clamshell device.
Plus, the i505 is a Palm OS 5.2 device, so no separate handwriting area. Can you imagine doing all your writing on an angled screen like that? The whole bottom half of the phone would just get in the way.
So with the i505, you just flip the screen around and - viola - it's a PDA. But y...
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I fully understand the reason for the swivel, and it's a great design when using the phone as a PDA.
HOWEVER, Caller ID exists for a reason - it's an incredibly popular feature. Any $400+ phone without it is worthless. Are you saying they can't put a display SOMEWHERE on this phone? Hard to believe. Check out Howards or pdaphonehome.com - just about everyone agrees the phone is crap without external display for Caller ID.
HOWEVER, Caller ID exists for a reason - it's an incredibly popular feature. Any $400+ phone without it is worthless. Are you saying they can't put a display SOMEWHERE on this phone? Hard to believe. Check out Howards or pdaphonehome.com - just about everyone agrees the phone is crap without external display for Caller ID.
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... HOWEVER, Caller ID exists for a reason - it's an incredibly popular feature. Any $400+ phone without it is worthless. ... just about everyone agrees the phone is crap without external display for Caller ID.
Well, I agree that a caller-ID display is a great feature, and it would be nice if this had it, but I wouldn't say it's "crap" without it. 😉
Mainly I just wanted to point out that there is a reason it's not there. It's an engineering decision done (I believe) for the specific reason I listed earlier. They didn't just "forget" to add it. 😉
Are you saying they can't put a display SOMEWHERE on this phone?
Well, I already covered the usual spot. Ta...
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Allow me to clear up your confusion:
The user manual (available on the FCC site) clearly states that when you get a call, you open the phone, see the caller ID and press the green button to answer it (or the Reject button to not answer it).
There, now everybody's happy.
Personally, I think this phone seems to be the best Palm/phone combo yet. I have a Treo 180 but don't like the Treo 600 (bulky, screen has no cover and only 4096 colors). I was hoping the Samsung i505 would have a hi-res screen but I guess the battery couldn't take it.
Hats off to Samsung for supplying both a slim and larger capacity battery and a charger that will take both the phone and the spare battery at the same time. These people know what they're doing.
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The user manual (available on the FCC site) clearly states that when you get a call, you open the phone, see the caller ID and press the green button to answer it (or the Reject button to not answer it).
There, now everybody's happy.
Personally, I think this phone seems to be the best Palm/phone combo yet. I have a Treo 180 but don't like the Treo 600 (bulky, screen has no cover and only 4096 colors). I was hoping the Samsung i505 would have a hi-res screen but I guess the battery couldn't take it.
Hats off to Samsung for supplying both a slim and larger capacity battery and a charger that will take both the phone and the spare battery at the same time. These people know what they're doing.
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Thanks for the clarification. However, how silly is that? You have to open the phone for Caller ID? Seems very Mickey Mouse to me - again, Samsung fell down on this one. I appreciate everyone's "justifications" as to why there is no external display, but bottom line is that there is no excuse. Just a poorly designed phone in my opinion, and I absolutely guarantee that sales will suffer because of a very significant oversight.
Any guesses as to how long it will take Samsung to produce a follow-up phone with - guess what - an external LCD?
Any guesses as to how long it will take Samsung to produce a follow-up phone with - guess what - an external LCD?
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I guess there's no pleasing some people.
I have no problem opening the phone to see who's calling. I'd rather not have an external display bulking it up.
I'd also rather not have a poor-quality built-in camera bulking it up, but that's another story.
I have no problem opening the phone to see who's calling. I'd rather not have an external display bulking it up.
I'd also rather not have a poor-quality built-in camera bulking it up, but that's another story.
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This isnt just a play phone either. Most people who have a phone with a PDA in it, usually have it for that purpose. For the PDA. So the lack of caller ID on the outside isnt gonna make them cry.
The functionality/memory/other more important stuff is what they would be looking for. Samsung is being smart in keeping the size down as well as the cost a bit im sure by not putting the caller ID on it. The reason is, cause they are looking at who their average consumer is....thats someone who wants the PDA and not a toy. If you want the convienience(sp?) of seeing if you want to answer the phone or not, you can still open it and look first. (as mentioned previously)
The functionality/memory/other more important stuff is what they would be looking for. Samsung is being smart in keeping the size down as well as the cost a bit im sure by not putting the caller ID on it. The reason is, cause they are looking at who their average consumer is....thats someone who wants the PDA and not a toy. If you want the convienience(sp?) of seeing if you want to answer the phone or not, you can still open it and look first. (as mentioned previously)
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Who said anything about it being a play phone? Do some research and you'll quickly see you are are dead wrong. Most people buying this phone want a phone first, then PDA functionality. If PDA were more inportant, they'd gravitate to the Treo (or similar phone) that provided more whizz bang features.
Think about it. The phone rings. I have to take it out of my clip/holder. I have to flip the phone open. I then have to push a button to answer it. All because I can't see who's calling. Lame. Very, very lame. They missed big time with this design. And by the way, every flip phone I've had allows me to answer the call when flipping it open. Are we now saying that we first have to look at the Caller ID after flipping open th...
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Think about it. The phone rings. I have to take it out of my clip/holder. I have to flip the phone open. I then have to push a button to answer it. All because I can't see who's calling. Lame. Very, very lame. They missed big time with this design. And by the way, every flip phone I've had allows me to answer the call when flipping it open. Are we now saying that we first have to look at the Caller ID after flipping open th...
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A lotof people dont like the treao because of it's size and also the buttons on the dialpad are smaller. Personally, I dont see tht many people making a big fuss about external caller id. I work in the industry and that's rarely a concern that arises. When i show peopel phones with externalcaller id, it's more like "oh thas cool" as if they weren't expecting that. The demographic that Samsung is appealing to with this particular model primarily contains individuals not wanting to carry a seperate pda from a phone and would prefer to have it integrated WITHOUT the bulk. I rest certain taht any individual looking especially for these features isn't too lazy to flip a phone open when it rings. Either way the'yre pulling it out of their po...
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Tell you what...when Samsung releases a phone like this WITH external Caller ID, get back to me. I'll guess it's only a matter of less than a year....after enough people complain and Samsung gets it right.
Don't worry though, I won't say "told you so".
By the way - opening up a flip phone to see who's calling will cause you to answer the call. Unless you have "flip-to-open" turned off, which is a major nuisance. Kind of makes me question your knowledge of "your work in the industry and that's rarely a concern that arises".
Geez, where do these idiots come from!
Don't worry though, I won't say "told you so".
By the way - opening up a flip phone to see who's calling will cause you to answer the call. Unless you have "flip-to-open" turned off, which is a major nuisance. Kind of makes me question your knowledge of "your work in the industry and that's rarely a concern that arises".
Geez, where do these idiots come from!
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Oh and just because i doubt your speed of thought....im thinkin you might throw back at me something like "i didnt say opening the phone was a nuisance, i said pushing that one extra button that will someday cause me....arthritis??? was a nuisance" so i decided to clarify that pushing that extra button is actually pretty easy! I had to practice all day to get it right, but now i can push single buttons with the best of them!
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MK,
As I understand your needs (after following this thread) you need external caller ID, and Palm OS on your phone.
Please correct or amend as appropriate.
As I understand your needs (after following this thread) you need external caller ID, and Palm OS on your phone.
Please correct or amend as appropriate.
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so i take it you're under the impression that t-mobile designs their phones?
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Hmmm - nowhere in my post did I even allude to the fact that T-Mobile designs their phones. How long was your head up your a** to come up with that one?
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seriously man... its a nuisance to open your phone to look at it? .....you friggan have to open it anyway to talk on it. Also...throwing insults at someone who makes alot more sense than you only makes you look less intelligent
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Here we go, another moron who didn't take the time to read the posts from the very beginning.
The issue was, and still is, the convenience of external Caller ID. Not about it being a nuisance to open the phone. External Caller ID.
Before you jump into a conversation with pointless remarks, do your homework.
The issue was, and still is, the convenience of external Caller ID. Not about it being a nuisance to open the phone. External Caller ID.
Before you jump into a conversation with pointless remarks, do your homework.
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mk,
As I understand your needs (after reading this thread) you need external caller ID, and Palm OS on your phone.
Please correct or amend as appropriate.
As I understand your needs (after reading this thread) you need external caller ID, and Palm OS on your phone.
Please correct or amend as appropriate.
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My two cents:
This phone is in close to perfect (based on reasonable available technology). But, when I hear my phone, I quickly look to see who it is & whether I want to accept the call. I hate to think of not having external caller-id.
Given the option, take away the crappy camera & give me external caller-id.
Bluetooth is on my wish list, but I won't bitch about its absence.
Bottom line, Sprint & T-Mobile kind of suck in the SF Bay Area (I don't mean to start a debate), so I not switching to them, thus I need to wait for the next model.
This phone is in close to perfect (based on reasonable available technology). But, when I hear my phone, I quickly look to see who it is & whether I want to accept the call. I hate to think of not having external caller-id.
Given the option, take away the crappy camera & give me external caller-id.
Bluetooth is on my wish list, but I won't bitch about its absence.
Bottom line, Sprint & T-Mobile kind of suck in the SF Bay Area (I don't mean to start a debate), so I not switching to them, thus I need to wait for the next model.
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You are in the majority of people who need a phone first, PDA second. Caller ID would not be a high priority if you want PDA functionality first. I agree with you - without Caller ID, this phone stinks.
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I totally disagree. I work in the IT field and at our shop we all have either a PDA phone or a BT phone and PDA/laptop. Caller ID is nice, but none of us really care. And, I really doubt someone who is looking for a phone first is going to shell out $500-$600+ for a PDA phone.
What's more of a concern to those of us who use PDAs regularly to stay connected is a choice of carriers and bluetooth. Hopefully, the SD slot will support a Palm BT card that gives the ability to use a wireless headset. I also hope Samsung provides a CDMA version of this phone as T-Mobile/ATT/Cingular GSM networks SUCK when it comes to coverage.
I had a Samsung A400 for 18mo and always had to flip the phone open to see the caller ID... really, it's not a bi...
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What's more of a concern to those of us who use PDAs regularly to stay connected is a choice of carriers and bluetooth. Hopefully, the SD slot will support a Palm BT card that gives the ability to use a wireless headset. I also hope Samsung provides a CDMA version of this phone as T-Mobile/ATT/Cingular GSM networks SUCK when it comes to coverage.
I had a Samsung A400 for 18mo and always had to flip the phone open to see the caller ID... really, it's not a bi...
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I think you need to read my post again as you seem to have missed the point.
Your description puts you into the PDA first, phone second category. I, along with a vast number of people, care about having a good quality phone first, then PDA functionality second. You're an IT guy, I'm a sales guy. I spend alot of time on the phone and don't care about Bluetooth or whizbang gadetry. I don't need a PDA to stay connected - that's what the PHONE is for. All I want is a place to look up phone numbers while on the road. And yes, I need to know who's calling before I answer the phone.
As for flipping the phone to see Caller ID, that is absolutely not an option for me. Ever. For any sales rep. The last thing you want to be doing is pl...
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Your description puts you into the PDA first, phone second category. I, along with a vast number of people, care about having a good quality phone first, then PDA functionality second. You're an IT guy, I'm a sales guy. I spend alot of time on the phone and don't care about Bluetooth or whizbang gadetry. I don't need a PDA to stay connected - that's what the PHONE is for. All I want is a place to look up phone numbers while on the road. And yes, I need to know who's calling before I answer the phone.
As for flipping the phone to see Caller ID, that is absolutely not an option for me. Ever. For any sales rep. The last thing you want to be doing is pl...
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You don't make any sense. You keep talking about wanting a phone first, well then buy a phone. Most people in the market for a smartphone are going to be tech people who are going to want bluetooth and the other "whizbang gadetry" and can live without caller ID on the outside.
I had the Samsung A400 for 18mo and went to plenty of meetings with it. I had a swivel case and could easily and discretely twist it and crack it open to see who's calling. Besides, if you are in a meeting and don't want to open a phone to check out who's calling, then why not wait until after the meeting to check out who called???? If an incoming call is so important that you'd interrupt a meeting to take it, then flip the damn thing open and look.
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I had the Samsung A400 for 18mo and went to plenty of meetings with it. I had a swivel case and could easily and discretely twist it and crack it open to see who's calling. Besides, if you are in a meeting and don't want to open a phone to check out who's calling, then why not wait until after the meeting to check out who called???? If an incoming call is so important that you'd interrupt a meeting to take it, then flip the damn thing open and look.
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I guess there's no way to explain it so you'll understand. I never said I wanted a Smartphone - I want a phone with PDA capability. That's a very big distiction. Let me say it one more time: All I care about is making calls first, but don't want to lug around a separate PDA. Get it? I don't need Smartphone capabilities - I don't need Internet connectivity or anything else. Just a phone/PDA. Get it? Why is that not sinking in with you?
You also don't understand my line of work. And that's OK, I don't expect you to. But don't preach to me that my needs are incorrect - if I need Caller ID, and if I need to see who's calling while in a meeting without being disruptive, then CallerID is important.
And you are wrong - I'd gla...
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You also don't understand my line of work. And that's OK, I don't expect you to. But don't preach to me that my needs are incorrect - if I need Caller ID, and if I need to see who's calling while in a meeting without being disruptive, then CallerID is important.
And you are wrong - I'd gla...
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MK, I have to agree with you. I want a PDA/telephone combination so that I do not have to carry two units, as I do now. I may get a total of 2 calls a month, on average, so caller ID is no big deal for me. Whatever calls I get I have no trouble opening the telephone to see who it is that is calling me. I also make a few calls, mostly on weekends; however, I use my Palm Pilot constantly and having it combined with a telephone so that I can use the directory capabilities is what I would like. I want the ability to look up the numbers and dial them on the fly.
The above are MY requirements. This telephone meets MY expectations and I hope no one feels the need to preach to me as to what I should want.
The above are MY requirements. This telephone meets MY expectations and I hope no one feels the need to preach to me as to what I should want.
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Sorry but you have it all wrong. There isn't any distinction whatsoever between a smartphone and as you say "phone with pda capability" when that's the principle definition of a smartphone. Anyways just get an I600 or something if you need the caller ID so much.
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Anyone with any knowledge of mobile phones knows there's a distinction between a Smartphone (Windows) and PDA phone (Palm OS). I suggest you do your homework before you show your ignorance again.
Thanks for the i600 tip - but that's not an option - I don't care for an outdated version of Windows, nor do I need Windows. I need Palm OS. Or didn't you get that?
Why do some people have such a hard time reading and understanding these posts?
Thanks for the i600 tip - but that's not an option - I don't care for an outdated version of Windows, nor do I need Windows. I need Palm OS. Or didn't you get that?
Why do some people have such a hard time reading and understanding these posts?
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oh stfu. I've been working in the wireless industry for many years now and know exponentially more than some jerkoff working in sales. It's people like you working in sales that would call a phone with AMPS/CDMA Cell/CDMA US PCS capability a tri-mode phone when it should be called a dual-band/dual mode phone. I'll explain since I'm sure you have no clue. AMPS=Analog 800MHz, CDMA Cell=Digital 800MHz, CDMA US PCS = Digital 1900MHz. Analog and Digital are modes. 800Mhz and 1900MHz are the bands. Dooooo.....youuuuuu....followwwwwww??? Your in no position to tell me to do my homework when it should be you that needs a ton of it. I suggest you find a new profession since it seems your on the verge of being mentally deficient with your ignor...
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You're an idiot, and you don't read. I've never said I was in sales. I realize you won't admit you are wrong, and I understand that. Bottom line is this: Smartphones are Windows based, PDA phones are Palm based. There is nothing you can say to dispute that. Your analogy is lame - yes, you do need to do some homework.
Bye for now, looking forward to your next stupid remark.
Bye for now, looking forward to your next stupid remark.
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Read the info/title of these phones before you start running your mouth you deficient troll.
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=5 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=80 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=123 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=173 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=175 »
http://www.palmone.com/us/products/smartphones/ »
http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/7100_phone/7100_phon ... »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=146 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=119 »
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=6599 »
Now STFU troll
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=5 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=80 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=123 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=173 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=175 »
http://www.palmone.com/us/products/smartphones/ »
http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/7100_phone/7100_phon ... »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=146 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=119 »
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=6599 »
Now STFU troll
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You must pretend to be a lawyer in your spare time. This argument started because you either didn't read, or didn't understand, that I needed a good phone first, and Palm OS second.
Please print out all of my posts, read them, eat some crow, then go away.
Please print out all of my posts, read them, eat some crow, then go away.
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Re: what is up with this design
by mk Feb 12, 2004, 6:20 AM
I think you need to read my post again as you seem to have missed the point.
Your description puts you into the PDA first, phone second category. I, along with a vast number of people, care about having a good quality phone first, then PDA functionality second. You're an IT guy, I'm a sales guy. I spend alot of time on the phone and don't care about Bluetooth or whizbang gadetry. I don't need a PDA to stay connected - that's what the PHONE is for. All I want is a place to look up phone numbers while on the road. And yes, I need to know who's calling before I answer the phone.
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by mk Feb 12, 2004, 6:20 AM
I think you need to read my post again as you seem to have missed the point.
Your description puts you into the PDA first, phone second category. I, along with a vast number of people, care about having a good quality phone first, then PDA functionality second. You're an IT guy, I'm a sales guy. I spend alot of time on the phone and don't care about Bluetooth or whizbang gadetry. I don't need a PDA to stay connected - that's what the PHONE is for. All I want is a place to look up phone numbers while on the road. And yes, I need to know who's calling before I answer the phone.
As for flipping the phone to see Caller ID, that is absolutely not an option for me. Ev...
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Well, I re-read it, but I'm not sure what your point is. I stated from the very beginning of this conversation that I care about having a good, quality phone with a Palm-based OS. Not a Windows-based phone.
You really have a problem reading.
You really have a problem reading.
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God damn you're myopic POS I've ever come across in MB. You run your mouth and you can't even back it up. I at least backup what I've previously said with links that contradict what your claiming you f'ing tool. If you actually read sites that I linked to it clearly labels all of these palm os phones as "smartphones". The 2nd reply was to you replying to me that you've never worked in the sales profession in which I posted a reply you made to another member that says and I quote "You're an IT guy, I'm a sales guy". So stop with the nonsense already since you've already embarrassed yourself enough and go buy yourself a copy of Hooked on Phonics since your in desperate need of it.
Go eat sh!t and don't come back till you've mastered Hook...
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You're reference to a sales guy was related to the mobile industry, which I'm not. And if that's not what you meant, be more clear in the future.
It's funny - when people realize they're wrong, they typically resort to 2nd grade humor and swearing. But I am impressed - it looks like you did take my advice and started going back and reading my posts. Maybe you should have done that in the first place.
Is the valium kicking in yet?
It's funny - when people realize they're wrong, they typically resort to 2nd grade humor and swearing. But I am impressed - it looks like you did take my advice and started going back and reading my posts. Maybe you should have done that in the first place.
Is the valium kicking in yet?
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Once again you don't backup your argument and continue to yap. Regardless of industry all "sales guys" are the same to me....all talk and no substance. In case you forgot, my argument was the "Smartphone" label was not restricted to MS in which you replied "Smartphone"= Windows and pdaphone=PalmOS. All of my links I posted to backup my argument contradicted what you said. At least backup your argument before you post again please. Oh and it's definitely funny when people realize their wrong since you keep evading the argument and won't argue the links I posted since deep down you know I'm right.
Is the rod removed from your a## yet?
Is the rod removed from your a## yet?
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I’m really tired of this conversation. So do this – go to the Forums link on Phonescoop, then scroll down until you see the Windows for Mobile Smartphones link. Then read it again. See – Phonescoop recognizes that Smartphones are associated with Windows software. That’s why there’s different links for Palm and PocketPC.
Now, go to Microsoft’s website, click on Mobile Devices, then click on Smartphone. This is a Microsoft product. Click on any of the links and it talks about Windows Mobile-Based Smartphones, the Windows Mobile-Based Smartphone community, etc.
Well that was fun, hope you learned something, it really couldn't be any clearer. Don’t look for any more responses from me, I’ve proven my point. Which is kind of silly, c...
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Now, go to Microsoft’s website, click on Mobile Devices, then click on Smartphone. This is a Microsoft product. Click on any of the links and it talks about Windows Mobile-Based Smartphones, the Windows Mobile-Based Smartphone community, etc.
Well that was fun, hope you learned something, it really couldn't be any clearer. Don’t look for any more responses from me, I’ve proven my point. Which is kind of silly, c...
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Good riddens. It's good that you decided to move on to more intelligent and important matters such as taking my advice to use hooked on phonics and remove that rod up from your a$$. 🤣
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Can someone help me find a smartphone with palm os that isnt a pda? I am not that bright so I just need a really smart phone.
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http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/7100_phone/7135/cons ... »
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=173 »
This tri-mode, 3G CDMA smartphone sports an innovative folder-style form factor that places the handwriting input pad and display on opposite halves of the phone. Key features include PalmOS 4.1, 1xRTT high-speed data, GPS positioning, color display, expansion card slot, external caller-ID display, stereo MP3 and video playback, speakerphone, and infrared.
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=173 »
This tri-mode, 3G CDMA smartphone sports an innovative folder-style form factor that places the handwriting input pad and display on opposite halves of the phone. Key features include PalmOS 4.1, 1xRTT high-speed data, GPS positioning, color display, expansion card slot, external caller-ID display, stereo MP3 and video playback, speakerphone, and infrared.
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You're pathetic. You need a life if you say you can't wait to see what my response is. 😕
Hope you didn't crap your pants waiting in anticipation you lil $***. 🤣 😛
Hope you didn't crap your pants waiting in anticipation you lil $***. 🤣 😛
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mk said:
Anyone with any knowledge of mobile phones knows there's a distinction between a Smartphone (Windows) and PDA phone (Palm OS). I suggest you do your homework before you show your ignorance again.
Thanks for the i600 tip - but that's not an option - I don't care for an outdated version of Windows, nor do I need Windows. I need Palm OS. Or didn't you get that?
Oh and one more thing. The Smartphone label isn't just for windows devices you moron. That label has been used before MS ever introduced their own "Smartphone" OS powered device. PDA phone = (Palm OS)? Well PDA phone also = Windows Mobile 2003 PE / PPC, Symbian OS devices as well. 🤣 😛
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Argh!!! You just don't understand what a smartphone is, do you?
NokiaTech is 150% correct. Smartphones are not just phones powered with some Microsoft mobile OS. Symbian OS, Palm OS, Linux (if there are any currently) powered phones are most definitely in the smartphone category. I suggest you read up on those links NokiaTech sent and educate yourself.
Second, you said it yourself... you want a good quality phone where you can store all of your contacts. Sounds like most of the phones out on the market now. My T610 does a pretty good job of that.
I never preached to you about what YOU wanted. You sat here and cried that this phone didn't come with an external caller ID. And while that is certainly a nice feature, the fact of t...
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NokiaTech is 150% correct. Smartphones are not just phones powered with some Microsoft mobile OS. Symbian OS, Palm OS, Linux (if there are any currently) powered phones are most definitely in the smartphone category. I suggest you read up on those links NokiaTech sent and educate yourself.
Second, you said it yourself... you want a good quality phone where you can store all of your contacts. Sounds like most of the phones out on the market now. My T610 does a pretty good job of that.
I never preached to you about what YOU wanted. You sat here and cried that this phone didn't come with an external caller ID. And while that is certainly a nice feature, the fact of t...
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ccrandal..or NokiaTech...or whoever you are...I suggest YOU look at the links I sent that clearly delineate the differences between Smartphones and PDA phones. You can lump them all into the same bucket if you wish, but the truly astute people with knowledge of this industry know there is a difference.
And to prove the idiot that you are, look at your comment saying just about all phones can store contacts and make calls - you clearly either can't read or don't get it. A PDA or Smartphone can hold thousands more contact names/numbers than an ordinary phone and hotsynch rather than manually entering them. I have thousands of contacts that I want to download - hence, the need for a PDA phone. An ordinary cellphone can't do that. You wi...
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And to prove the idiot that you are, look at your comment saying just about all phones can store contacts and make calls - you clearly either can't read or don't get it. A PDA or Smartphone can hold thousands more contact names/numbers than an ordinary phone and hotsynch rather than manually entering them. I have thousands of contacts that I want to download - hence, the need for a PDA phone. An ordinary cellphone can't do that. You wi...
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Listen, c*cksm*ker, I know infinitely more about this industry than you do. I actively write software for cell companies and cell phone manufacturers, so don't tell me I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
I doubt you have thousands of contacts to store on a phone. Based on your posts here, you are far to belligerent to be a successful salesman.
And no, I am not NokiaTech... although I'm flattered to be associated with someone who is obviously rather knowledgable about this industry.
I doubt you have thousands of contacts to store on a phone. Based on your posts here, you are far to belligerent to be a successful salesman.
And no, I am not NokiaTech... although I'm flattered to be associated with someone who is obviously rather knowledgable about this industry.
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Nice language - I guess that pretty much sums up what I've said about you. The first signs of someone realizing they've lost an argument: swearing.
But just to reiterate, because you obviously don't read well, I DO have thousands of contacts, which is why I need a Palm phone. Listen to me bonehead - I have over 3500 contacts in my database that I need on my phone. I've maintained that database for over 10 years, and as a successful salesman, I need access to these contacts at any time. So once again pinhead, you are wrong. Tell you what numbnuts- let's hook up sometime when you're in the area and I'll show you my database. Apparantly that's the only way you'll believe me when I say I need a phone that stores thousands of contacts...
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But just to reiterate, because you obviously don't read well, I DO have thousands of contacts, which is why I need a Palm phone. Listen to me bonehead - I have over 3500 contacts in my database that I need on my phone. I've maintained that database for over 10 years, and as a successful salesman, I need access to these contacts at any time. So once again pinhead, you are wrong. Tell you what numbnuts- let's hook up sometime when you're in the area and I'll show you my database. Apparantly that's the only way you'll believe me when I say I need a phone that stores thousands of contacts...
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It's actually very small. It's smaller (by volume) than the i500, which if you've seen it, is a VERY small PDA phone.
I think the i505 will be the new reigning smallest PDA phone in the world. Remember that it's a full PalmOS PDA phone. If it were any smaller, the stylus and touchscreen would be nearly useless.
I think the i505 will be the new reigning smallest PDA phone in the world. Remember that it's a full PalmOS PDA phone. If it were any smaller, the stylus and touchscreen would be nearly useless.
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