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20 Seconds to start up? Is this normal?

imkdd

Mar 31, 2004, 1:47 AM
I just got the SE47 from Verizon, and overall I like it a lot. Great speakerphone, voice dial features, and form factor. One glaring, annoying problem though: it takes 20 seconds to "boot up". Compared to my Audiovox 9150, which at 5 seconds seemed slow, this is glacial.

I wouldn't care if I left my phone on all the time, but I only turn it on when I need to make a call, then it's back in my laptop bag.

Is this typical of all newer phones? If so, I'll learn to live with it, but if there are other models out there with similar features that start quicker, I'll be in the market for one of those.

Thanks,

imkdd
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maui

Apr 1, 2004, 12:11 PM
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Boy. I know it can be a bit of a drag waiting for your computer to start up but here we're talking about a phone booting in "SECONDS"!!

Yes, this is a bit different to the oldies that had mono displays and comparatively basic functions. 'Modern' phones have an enormous amount of software to load. With this in mind, the Slider is an incredibly featured phone (particularly compared against price) and logically there is a great deal of software to load in order to make available the functions you appreciate, ie. speakerphone.

Consider together... the speakerphone, wap, voice (memo, dial, hold, training), scheduler, multi level contacts/directory, data & fax, multi-tone ringers, Brew, tools tools tools, blah blah blah @65K colour dis...
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imkdd

Apr 1, 2004, 11:47 PM
Yes, older phones started relatively quickly, but I disagree with your point that it is natural for newer phones to take longer to boot due to all the new features that need to load.

I have used Palms, Pocket PCs, and Blackberrys with phones--units with similar features to the ones you listed and with larger OS's--yet they all turn on almost instantly. Granted, a phone's form factor and battery capacity may pose a challenge for designers trying to incorporate the technology required to make the OS instantly available, but I think it is reasonable to expect similar behavior from a phone that has similar features and functions as a PDA.

Perhaps startup time is not a design priority because designers assume people rarely turn off their p...
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itzme

Apr 5, 2004, 4:41 PM
I timed my current phone (Samsung a310) to startup and that seems about right; I don't think the SE47 should be much different. 20 seconds sounds like a long time, but when you actually time it, it doesn't seem so long. 🙂 Still, I don't think your question was unreasonable at all.

I should be getting the Slider this week. I'm anxious to get it, as it's gotten some fairly good reviews thus far.
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maui

Apr 9, 2004, 8:29 AM
You're right, it's not an unreasonable question. Just surprised at the prospect of changing phones over on the basis of seconds to boot. That's just me. 😕
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maui

Apr 9, 2004, 8:14 AM
Agreed, as phones' functions continue to grow beyond the primary communications purpose, the issue of bootup delays will likely become a greater concern to manufacturers. Clearly I cannot vouch for hardware designers and programmers with certainty, but I'd be surprised if bootup time wasn't already addressed and minimised (as much as time/money allowed) at the 20secs we currently experience.

Something else that may be worth considering when comparing phones to units such as PDAs; that being that PDAs were designed to be just that. They were designed with organisational functions and at the same time the capacity to carry them out. Feature expansion has a far better platform with which to progress upon. The main point though might be that ...
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